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  What is the most damning watchtower publication?

  by zound in

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  i want to purchase a couple of vintage watchtower publications to help in my helping jw's break free.

  some of the older ones are expensive or hard to come by - i know you can buy them on cd's but i'd like to own one or two of the "classics of propaganda"- some of the ones that speak for themselves as to the ridiculousness of this religion.. of course any magazine i pick up today speaks to me of the ridiculousness, but you need something much more hardcore for the jw's.. any recommendations?.

  "children" has some pretty good quotes in it..

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  Dont spend money on those books. Go to archive.org. I found so much in that place. Just about all the WT since 1879, most golden age, just about all of Rutherford's garbage, most of Russell's garbage too. PM me if you are interested in my 5 Gigabyte watchtower library.

  The most damning publication is the Watchtower to the public of October and November 2011. The two part article "When was ancient Jerusalem Destroyed" contains the boldest, most shameless lie ever written by the WT. It contains plenty more.
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  After the cult how many reject faith in anything?

  by Seraphim23 in

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  never a jw

  Mrs Jones I actually was an apatheist from the time I was 13 until I was 47, just a year ago. Today, after learning about ttatt and other christian fundamentalists beliefs, I have become anti-theist. Too much harm is being done by religion. In fact, in politics I sided with Republicans in most issues. Today, given their large support by anti-science fundamentalists, I am hesitant to identify with any party.
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  An enemy of my enemy is my friend

  by stuckinamovement in

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  i like that old saying.. siam.

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  never a jw

  Funny, I just made a comment using the same quote in the recent Lady Lee thread. Two persons, likely in very distant parts of the world, had the same thought and decided to type it here almost at the same time.
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  Bertrand Russell : Why I'm Not A Christian

  by frankiespeakin in

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  2. friends

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/bertrand_russell.

  bertrand arthur william russell, 3rd earl russell, om, frs[1] (18 may 1872 2 february 1970) was a british philosopher, logician, mathematician, historian, and social critic.

  [2] at various points in his life he considered himself a liberal, a socialist, and a pacifist, but he also admitted that he had never been any of these in any profound sense.

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  My kind of guy, along with Voltaire and Barruch Spinoza.
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  WITH LADY LEE IN, A NEWLY REBRANDED AWAA IS GETTING BETTER EACH DAY

  by Scott77 in

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  looks like the awaa people are here to stay.

  i sense they have withered the rentless criticism and now have been refined for the long haul.

  they have been washed in the previous blood of jesus christ and declared fit to the fine fight.

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  The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Lady Lee is definitely my friend. Some people here who are quick to judge are neither yet. Right now, they just obstruct.
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  How to Take Down the AAWA! (For those that have been hurt by that org)

  by HintOfLime in

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  2. scandals

  (if you're tired of aawa threads, please be aware, this is an aawa thread.).

  sadly - there are people who have been negatively affected by the aawa, and like other organizations, the aawa made protecting it's name and reputation a priority over helping and protecting the people it should have been trying to help.

  like other organizations, they won't discuss the issues publicly with the community, insisting instead on discussions behind closed doors and "getting the names" of people expressing concerns.. .

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  never a jw

  The Watchtower must be really happy reading this thread.

  Get over it.

  In fact, i don't think I get a hint of lime. I get a hint of a WT secret agent.

  Cedars, more than anyone else messed up. He may not be a good leader, even if he had the best of intentions and can run a website very well. But so far, he fundamentally is on our side.

  Can you insist that AAWA correct its mistakes, instead of planning to take it down.
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  just arrived here...

  by sylvlef in

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  2. experiences

  hi all.. i'm a newbie from paris, france.

  so please forgive my english grammar, it might be some times...improper.

  27, got baptised at 16 (for a girl...i never had).

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  never a jw

  O yeah, let's make those one-language Americans feel bad.

  Bienvenido al foro. Espero que todo salga bien al final con tu esposa.

  Now, my French: Peugeot
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  HELLO, IM NEW HERE

  by juanvazquez88 in

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  2. friends

  hello my brothers in ttatt.

  my name es juan, im from mexico, im catholic and my wife is a jehovah witness, expelled, of course.. therefore, she still believes in the organization, and she said that they were fine with her expulsion, cause she deserve it, cause our marriage with me.

  any help, or someone with a similar experience will be good for me.

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  never a jw

  Village Girl,

  "Eating the cake (or sandwich) before recess" is an idiom for having sex before the right time or marriage. My wife was acussed by her own sister, with no basis, of having done something improper with me. No such a thing, but the elders went ahead with their punishment. In the next visit of the c.o., he told them to lift the punishment and apologize. Well not really, they only used the typical excuse of JW's when they mess up: "the light gets brighter".

  Either Juan's wife did something bigger than marrying a "pagan", or the elders are going way too far with the disfellowshipping.
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  HELLO, IM NEW HERE

  by juanvazquez88 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello my brothers in ttatt.

  my name es juan, im from mexico, im catholic and my wife is a jehovah witness, expelled, of course.. therefore, she still believes in the organization, and she said that they were fine with her expulsion, cause she deserve it, cause our marriage with me.

  any help, or someone with a similar experience will be good for me.

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  Bienvenido paisa Juan,

  Yo estoy casado con una testigo. Nos casamos hace 19 anos. Cuando anunciamos nuestra boda su familia entera (testigos) rehuso asistir. Los ancianos prepararon un discurso cruel enfatizando que ella era "una mancha" para la congregacion. Tambien le quitaron el privilegio de hacer comentarios. Pero nunca la expulsaron. Cuando todo se calmo, los anciano le pidieron disculpas usando el texto biblico de proverbios "la luz se hace mas intensa" o algo asi. Pidieron disculpas porque el ciervo de circuito les metio una reganada. El punto es que casarse con un "pagano" no amerita expulsion, a menos que ustedes se hayan comido la torta antes del recreo, o alguna otra falta grave.

  FOR THOSE WHO DONT UNDERSTAND SPANISH, I AM SAYING REALLY BAD THINGS ABOUT ALL OF YOU.
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  Why did you stop believing in God?

  by The Quiet One in

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  never a jw

  I was about 13 when I got deeper into science and evolution, which were a good reason to get rid of the "loving" spirit who would send me to hell for missing Mass. Never looked back. Lately, at 48, I am discovering that my instincts in my youth were right on the money. The God of the Bible is just a fabrication by men to control men.